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Mar 31, 2011


Claude Dupuis

1

I posted a new topic yesterday but it seems I may have done something wrong. I am will to host a small meeting specfic to the stand at my shop on April9th from 9 to 12 noon.

Mar 31, 2011


Anthony Holmes

2

Hi Claude – please count me in!

Thanks

Tony

Apr 1, 2011


Claude Dupuis

3

And then there was two.

Apr 1, 2011


Jim Forbes

4

Add me for three

Claude what are the dimensions (and tolerances) on the ringed segment you showed at Scott's? All but the bottom plate could be turned as single plates within a 24" swing. Might be a good challenge to get eight rings the same from eight centers, then turn the bottom to hide the center points.

Have you looked at the info on classic column design at wikipedia "classical order"?

Apr 4, 2011


Claude Dupuis

5

Jim

That's great that you are coming. Glad to have you and your expertise. I'll check out the website you suggested. Marcel is looking to have a meeting at the Homestead school regarding columns. I'll reach out to Dick B. to see if he would be willing to add some input. I do not have any maple for the stand but hope to pick some up latter this week.

The bead was about an eighth high and wide.

See you Sat.

Apr 6, 2011


Claude Dupuis

6

Two slots left for Saturday's meeting this comming Sat. at Claude's

Apr 6, 2011


Ned Gelinas

7

Claude……I'd like to attend your meeting this coming Saturday.

Apr 6, 2011


Woody Magnuson

8

Claude Dupuis said:

Jim

That's great that you are coming. Glad to have you and your expertise. I'll check out the website you suggested. Marcel is looking to have a meeting at the Homestead school regarding columns. I'll reach out to Dick B. to see if he would be willing to add some input. I do not have any maple for the stand but hope to pick some up latter this week.

The bead was about an eighth high and wide.

See you Sat.

Claude:  Won't be there Saturday, but after thinking about the segments and the way I think they wii be made:  wood turned away to leave the ring, I believe it may be difficult to make all the segments the same thickness so the joints won't show.  An alternative would be to get exact thickness up front, then cut a recess for the cupcakes.  Decorate the recesses with grooves, coves, beads etc. to show that they were turned and not drilled.  Then, if necessary, the assembled platform could be mounted on the lathe and joint irregularities could be removed.  Just a thought.

Woody

Apr 6, 2011


Claude Dupuis

9

Ned

You are welcomed for Sat. Unlike AL you know how to find me. One slot left.

Woody

You are absolutely right. I would be challenge to get the pieces to line up. We will brainstorm this further on Sat. Thanks for the input.

Claude

Apr 7, 2011


David Belser

10

Planing on being there Claude.

Apr 9, 2011


Claude Dupuis

11

Good meeting at my House today. David, Tim, Ned, Jim, Tony H and Tony I attended. Not much got made but some key decisions were. We have decided that the stand and columns will be made of Holly. I found out today just how expensive holly is. We owe Tony H some $. The lower two plates will be segmented due to their size. The other two will be off center turned and Jim brought a very good example of what it might look like. All the columns will also be holly. I will followup with Dick B for prototypes. Cupcake recess

Apr 10, 2011


Claude Dupuis

12

Five hours into it and I have 1 and 3/4 segments. I'm thinking the rest will be much quicker.

Apr 10, 2011


David Belser

13

Looks sweet Claude!

 

I was thinking (always a dangerous thing). Perhaps this was considered – regarding the thickness of the platters. We could attach squares or blocks of the tops (& bottoms?) of columns as a separate part to each of the trays. This would allow plenty of purchase for tenons without adversely affecting the thickness of the trays.

I don't know if this was considered or not. It would allow us to go with much thinner trays as not a lot of wood would be needed to support the actual cupcakes.

Is this an idea worth pursuing?

 

 

Apr 10, 2011


Anthony Holmes

14

These look great Claude – I hope I can live up to your great standards in making tier 2.

Dave – good idea - Saturday am we talked a bit about having a 3/8 sub plate glued to the bottom of the actual plats and drill the holes through this for the tennons of the columns – I also think this would be a good idea to stablize or stregthen the segmented plates as these will be end glue joints.

I will check on ebay to see if I can get some more of the think holly pieces 3/8" think – it will work perfectly for this – or if it will work better we can just cut small squares or rings to house the tennons.

Tony

Apr 17, 2011


Claude Dupuis

15

Tony

Making progress!!!

Not enough holly for the middle. Any suggestions on a substitute?

Claude

Apr 18, 2011


David Belser

16

Claude Dupuis said:

Not enough holly for the middle. Any suggestions on a substitute?

Claude

Claude, Tony H had some thin sheets I think two of them might be enough to fill in the middle. Just a thought.

 

What you have there looks great!

 

- Dave

Apr 18, 2011


Jim Forbes

17

Claude, Sorry for the delayed response. I have been preoccupied for the past week with another project, but will get back to this CCC project Tuesday. I have the large holly board that Tony brought over last Sunday and expect to cut out the two discs and start "machining" them Tuesday. The remaining wood will be available for columns or platter parts and I will get it to you (or whoever needs it) sometime this week. Let me know.

Jim

Apr 19, 2011


Anthony Holmes

18

Hi Claude – Wow this looks Great!

 

I am hoping to get up to Dave's tonight to cut the rings for tier 3 – then maybe we can get together this weekend to segment them?

 

I have about 1/3 of the large board we got left over so you can make use of that – and I also have a few thin sheets if they can be used.

 

I cut some 1.5" x 3/4 pieces and glued them together to make blanks for the columns too.

 

Tony

Apr 20, 2011


Ed Howes

19

Very impressive work!  Does the center piece need to fill the whole center?  Could it just be a ring where the posts attach?  Would a center opening help with light to better get into the middle area and illuminate that side of the cupcakes instead of being in shadow?  What ever you guys think best will be awesome!

 

Thank you, Ed Howes

Apr 22, 2011


Claude Dupuis

20

Ed

Good thinking. The platter pictured is the bottom one. No need for an opening there. Not a bad thought though.

Tony

Shop is open tomorrow

Claude

Apr 24, 2011


Anthony Holmes

21

Hi all,

 

With the help of Dave B and his magic metal turning lathe we turned 8 segments for tier 3.

Apr 24, 2011


Anthony Holmes

22

And with a few practice cuts in Pine and the help of my Incra mitre Jig

Apr 26, 2011


Jim Forbes

23

I have been tied up most of the last two weeks with "Family Priorities" (at least that's what she called it). Now it is back to turning !!! Included are two pictures (front and back) of what is left of the board that Tony brought over on the 17th.  Who wants it – when and where?    

 

                             

 

Both pieces are about 10 3/4" wide by 10 3/4" from flat to top of 11" diameter; about 31/ 32" thick. A lot of columns could be cut from this stock, but a lot of knots to work around.

 

The top two platters are turned, just need some sanding and to cut the thickness to final size and bore the holes for the columns. Are we staying with 5/8"thick ? Right now they are .704" for the big one and .721" for the small one. Any thinning of the edge to reduce the "apparent" thickness.

I have two more questions for the artists:

1) should the 1/4" centering holes on the bottom be filled or left ? (they are about 1/4" deep)

2) should the knot defect / natural enhancement be filled – hidden- or left as part of the nature of the wood. Here is a close up of it (just couldn't get enough knot free wood out of the blank)

 

Jim

 

Apr 30, 2011


Claude Dupuis

24

Jim

Glad to see some progress. Looks great. It is my opinon that we should take the plates down to 5/8" and taper the underside to 1/2 on the edges. The one I'm building, the bottom one, I have brought down to 1/2". I have added two segmented rings below the main plate, each 1/2" thick giving the elusion of steps going up to the main plate. I have enough wood to complete both the main plate and two rings. The remaining might be needed for columns.

I think to knot hole should be filled. Epoxy maybe or a piece of holly glued into a knotch?

Claude

May 1, 2011


Jim Forbes

25

Claude I agree. After my posting of 4/26 I decided that this project should be more about the cupcakes and not the plattees so the " natural enhancement" was more of a distraction than it should be, so I filled it with a mixture of Minwax stain able wood filler (yellow) and Elmer's wood filler (white) which gave a cured color (Tony that's colour) very close to the basswood. Now it looks more like a bit of burl or a bit of spalting.

The plates were thurned to 5/8 thick, then the bottoms were tapered starting 3/4" from column bolt circle so there would be a flat surface for the 1 1/2 " top of the column to sit on; then straight line out to the 1/2" edge thickness. Have some hand sanding yet to do to improve surface finish.

Pictured here with stock doweling just to get an idea of how the assembly will look. Tim Elliot is sending three candles via mail.

I think we aught to get together soon and review conditions, see what's missing, and what needs improving. Also I think the four platters should be finished with the same finish so they look like we worked together on it.

I still have the two pieces of left over basswood as pictured in my last post. who wants it?

 

And Dave I need to get your tooling back to you.

Jim

May 2, 2011


David Belser

26

Looks good Jim! now all we need is some real columns…….

May 4, 2011


Jim Forbes

27

Here is another photo update thanks to the three candles received from Tim Elliot:

 

May 6, 2011


Claude Dupuis

28

Progress photo

May 6, 2011


Jim Forbes

29

Claude,

Looks great!

I think we aught to get the four platters together; prepare for and apply finish so they all look alike.

What do you think?

Jim

May 6, 2011


Jim Forbes

30

Claude,

Looks great!

I think we aught to get the four platters together; prepare for and apply finish so they all look alike.

What do you think?

Jim

May 7, 2011


Claude Dupuis

31

Three of four plates made

Plates went home with Tony. We thought it would be a good idea to have the plates for the column turning next Sat at Dick's place. Tony plans on going and will bring them along with column blanks.

Claude

May 22, 2011


Anthony Holmes

32

It's a tough job but someone has to do it:-)

 

Tier 3 is sanded to 220 grit – I just have to make my octagon round – Claude can you help?

 

Thanks

Tony

May 23, 2011


Claude Dupuis

33

Tony

Looking good. I like your method of sanding better then mine.

Let me know which day this coming weekend would work for you and we can have a go at it.

Claude

May 25, 2011


Dick Batchelder

34

Tony & Claude

I will get the stand discs & columns to Dave Belser after work today so you have it for this weekend. 

I have fitted the group of 4 at the top. I am leaving for the weekend so will not be around.

Dick

May 29, 2011


Ed Howes

35

Good evening;

 

Are we going to ship the stand in pieces or assembled?  If in pieces and depending on the diameter of the largest base, I found a box that something round came in and there are styrofoam pieces to accomodate the round object.  I can bring to the next meeting if desired.

 

Thanks, Ed.